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Traveller-digest    Wednesday, November 3 1999    Volume 1999 : Number 1300<BR>
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The following topics are covered in this digest:<BR>
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Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
Re: Recognising Strephon (was: Re: Stupid questions)<BR>
RE: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
RE: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up <BR>
Re: Solomani Rim data<BR>
Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up <BR>
My website and a request<BR>
Another website request...<BR>
Re: Stupid questions <BR>
Re: Re Aslan <BR>
Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up <BR>
Re: [OT] Cultural Differences...<BR>
[OT] RE: Lies; Damn Lies, and Statistics<BR>
Diplomacy - I don't have any....<BR>
Emperors of the Rule of Man #8<BR>
RE: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
Of Coke and Correlations<BR>
RE: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 04:00:58 -0500<BR>
From: Juliean Galak <jg42@cornell.edu><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
<BR>
At 09:24 PM 11/3/99 +1300, you wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> > You got DirectX to install under NT4?  How?  I was told the installer<BR>
>won't<BR>
> > even run....<BR>
><BR>
>DirectX comes with NT4.0 on the modern OEM disks, it has worked withn it<BR>
>since the  IE4.0 browser update.<BR>
<BR>
Interesting... I've heard that DirectX 3 worked after SP4, but thats it... <BR>
I'll have to try it...  Maybe I could then dump 98 altogether....<BR>
<BR>
           -- Juliean Galak (a.k.a. Falcon)<BR>
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- --<BR>
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                          defend to the death your right to say it."<BR>
                                              -- Francois Marie Voltaire<BR>
#include <disclaimer.h> "Imagination is more important than knowledge"<BR>
                          			     -- Albert Einstein<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:41:36 +0000<BR>
From: Timothy.Collinson@solent.ac.uk<BR>
Subject: Re: Recognising Strephon (was: Re: Stupid questions)<BR>
<BR>
>Having played "The Man" in one convention game, the rule used by the GM<BR>
was that<BR>
>high officials may recognise Strephon but "normal" people would not. I<BR>
assume<BR>
>the GM rolled against INT whenever appropriate.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Yes, wasn't it in one of the _Foundation_ books of Asimov where the Emperor<BR>
actually looks very little like his media images which have been 'touched<BR>
up'?  I forget where that was exactly though.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
>Adventure Nugget: following in the "Shoes of the Fisherman" where the Pope<BR>
gets<BR>
>out and about - or even just the Digest 9 adventure where "our heroes"<BR>
throw a<BR>
>picnic for Iphegenia - how about this: the Emperor decides to travel<BR>
amonst his<BR>
>people incognito, and asks the PCs to be his escorts.<BR>
<BR>
>You could even do this in the G:T Spinward Marches, simply replace<BR>
"Strephon"<BR>
>with "Varian". One of the single-player 76 Patrons is a noble who wants to<BR>
visit<BR>
>the seamier side of town - just do a cut-and-paste of this scenario.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Or, of course, all the possibilities of just before (say) the FFW when he<BR>
travels amongst his troops to find out what they think of him....<BR>
<BR>
(See Shakespeare's Henry Vth for full scenario details!)   [1]<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
tc<BR>
<BR>
[1]  Completely OT footnote: I once went to see this at the Royal<BR>
Shakespeare Company in Stratford-upon-Avon (i.e. THE place to see the<BR>
bard).  My wife and I were sitting in the third row of the stalls (i.e.<BR>
very close and up front) and when Henry did his stirring speech about who<BR>
would join him in the coming battle I very nearly jumped up to join him.  I<BR>
was really *there*!  It really was a physical effort to restrain myself and<BR>
recall that it was just a play.  (Recently I've kind of wished I had jumped<BR>
up just to see what would have happened.)<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:39:17 -0000 <BR>
From: "Trevor, Peter" <Peter.Trevor@exchange.rb.cwplc.com><BR>
Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
<BR>
David J. Golden wrote:<BR>
> Rumor going around Microsoft may actually be considering porting<BR>
> some Office apps to Linux ...<BR>
><BR>
> (sources: 1, one of the O'Reilly "Perl" books flat-out states MS<BR>
> is considering porting Visual Basic for Apps to Unix; 2, comments<BR>
> from an unnamed source, corroborating 1--why port VB for APPS if<BR>
> you're not porting those Apps?)<BR>
<BR>
Apparently (and I'm sure many  people  will  correct  me  if  I'm<BR>
wrong) not all Unixes are created equal.  When looking round  the<BR>
MS website about 6 months ago I found IE4 had been ported over to<BR>
HP Unix and Sun Unix (IIRC) but the site stated  explicitly  that<BR>
these 2 versions would *not* work with Linux.  From this I  would<BR>
conclude that MS are interested in expanding  their  empire  into<BR>
other *non-competing* OSs ... but to port to Linux would  be  bad<BR>
for Windows (and thus unlikely).<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Regards PLST<BR>
"If the ship is sinking - maybe the rats have a point."<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:44:51 -0000 <BR>
From: "Trevor, Peter" <Peter.Trevor@exchange.rb.cwplc.com><BR>
Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
<BR>
Jory Earl wrote:<BR>
> > I get loads of GPFs from Windows Explorer ... even when  its  not<BR>
> > running!  I now use the Litestep shell but  still  get GPFs  from<BR>
> > EXPLORER.EXE.  Its almost time  for  the  biannual  reformat  and<BR>
> > reinstall.<BR>
><BR>
> You shouldn't be getting any at all.  The prime culprit for<BR>
> those is the video driver.  Some of them don't work in Windows<BR>
> 95 without a tweak or two.  For instance, one card from Matrox<BR>
> I used sets itself at "optimal" which was causing me Blue<BR>
> screens right and left.  When I experimented and set it for<BR>
> "adapter default" they went away.<BR>
<BR>
Wow!  I have a Matrox Millenium II set to "optimal" ...  I  shall<BR>
change it when I get home tonight.  This was not  something  that<BR>
had occured to me to try, if it works then a *big* thank you  for<BR>
this info.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Regards PLST<BR>
"If the ship is sinking - maybe the rats have a point."<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:17:55 -0500<BR>
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
<BR>
> You shouldn't be getting any at all.  The prime culprit for<BR>
> those is the video driver.  Some of them don't work in Windows<BR>
> 95 without a tweak or two.  For instance, one card from Matrox<BR>
> I used sets itself at "optimal" which was causing me Blue<BR>
> screens right and left.  When I experimented and set it for<BR>
> "adapter default" they went away.<BR>
<BR>
>Wow!  I have a Matrox Millenium II set to "optimal" ...  I  shall<BR>
>change it when I get home tonight.  This was not  something  that<BR>
>had occured to me to try, if it works then a *big* thank you  for<BR>
>this info.<BR>
<BR>
I was using the Matrox Millenium (I) or original.  PCI with 4megs ram.<BR>
Whenever I would try to click on fullscreen Icon for DOS session, BOOM.<BR>
system crash.  Your card may be different but I hope that works for you.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
___________________________________________________________<BR>
 J-Man<BR>
 ICQ# 2843475<BR>
 New Hampshire - U.S.A.<BR>
 Email : j-man@iname.com<BR>
 Home Page : http://www.geocities.com/~jman037/<BR>
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 07:59:54 -0500<BR>
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up <BR>
<BR>
> >I get loads of GPFs from Windows Explorer ... even when  its  not<BR>
> >running!  I now use the Litestep shell but  still  get GPFs  from<BR>
> >EXPLORER.EXE.  Its almost time  for  the  biannual  reformat  and<BR>
> >reinstall.<BR>
> <BR>
> You shouldn't be getting any at all.  The prime culprit for those is the<BR>
> video driver.  Some of them don't work in Windows 95 without a tweak or two.<BR>
> For instance, one card from Matrox I used sets itself at "optimal" which was<BR>
> causing me Blue screens right and left.  When I experimented and set it for<BR>
> "adapter default" they went away.<BR>
> <BR>
> Another thing could be shared DLLs left over from un-installs.  Those will<BR>
> flake out your system too.  Your plans for a FORMAT will clear this up.  In<BR>
> fact Microsoft itself advises a yearly formatting and re-installation of<BR>
> windows.<BR>
<BR>
And people look at me strange when I tell them I *prefer* Linux!!!  It's <BR>
*very* stable for me, even with my best efforts to rilly screw it up.  About <BR>
99% of the problems I *DO* get are from canned software having incompatible <BR>
libraries when they got built, but if I can get hold of the source, a quick <BR>
make dep; make; make install; make install_man tends to fix that.<BR>
<BR>
As for full-blown installs, I've done a few of them in the last couple years, <BR>
mostly when I upgraded my distribution or did something *totally* stoopid <BR>
like work on the machine after i'd been up 30 hours or so.  I'm still running <BR>
Red Hat 4.1 on one of my HDs, and that's almost 2 years old now.  Still <BR>
works, even though mostly I use the SuSE 6.1 distribution until I get around <BR>
to installing the new Red Hat 6.0 distro I picked up last week dirt cheep...<BR>
 <BR>
> Another thing could be any odd 16-bit programs that don't like windows (or<BR>
> that windows don't like).  Windows is a primarily 32-bit operating system<BR>
> (noted exceptions gdi.exe and user.exe which are STILL 16-bit).  I have read<BR>
> that some 16 bit applications will cause system instability.<BR>
<BR>
DOS is 16 bits, and no matter how you cut it, Win95 is still just a GUI shell on top of DOS no matter what Microsoft's marketting people try to tell you.  It'll work with 32 bitsokay, but yeah, you'll have problems with 16 bit programs that 'break the rules', i.e., aren't fully compatible with the published API.  And FWIW, Microsoft Windows wasn't compatible with the API when it first came out.<BR>
<BR>
They tell me that Win98 did away with the old 16 bit compatibility mode, though I wouldn't know about it; I've never played with Win98, and there has been *no* Microsoft software on my machine in about a year now.  YMPWV.<BR>
<BR>
Keven<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
tc++ tm+ tn t4- to ru++ ge+ 3i c+ jt au st- ls pi+ ta+ he+ so- vi zh sy<BR>
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                                                     Science-Fiction Adventure<BR>
                                                     In Reavers' Deep<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:13:09 -0800<BR>
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Solomani Rim data<BR>
<BR>
My take on the random generation is that it's a good guide, but doesn't<BR>
always need to be followed. Just because you can't roll it up randomly<BR>
doesn't make it impossible. I say spend more time describing what this world<BR>
*would* look like rather than making up new stats and describing those.<BR>
<BR>
Shawn Campbell<BR>
shawn@electricstitch.com<BR>
<BR>
From: <JFZeigler@aol.com><BR>
> Hmmmm.<BR>
><BR>
> Has anyone ever noticed that the worlds of the Solomani Rim don't<BR>
> appear to have been generated using the standard CT rules?<BR>
><BR>
> Picking an example at random, take 1738 Hamilcar A26A9AA-E.<BR>
><BR>
> I can buy a world of size 2 having a type 6 atmosphere.  That just needs<BR>
> a roll of 11 on 2d6.  Rare, but possible (although there seem to be a lot<BR>
> of similar cases in this set).<BR>
><BR>
> Can anyone explain to me how a world of size 2 can have a hydrographic<BR>
> code of A?  How do you roll a 15 or higher on 2d6?<BR>
><BR>
> Anyone have any insights?  I need to figure out what to do with these<BR>
> super-implausible worlds. . .and taking a bottle of white-out to the<BR>
> canonical UWPs is starting to look tempting.<BR>
><BR>
> ----------<BR>
> Jon F. Zeigler: Mathematician, computer geek, amateur historian, freelance<BR>
> writer, occasional scribbler of bad poetry<BR>
> "For any statement, no matter how innocuous, there exists a nonempty<BR>
> set of people who will take offense at it."<BR>
><BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:35:21 -0500<BR>
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up <BR>
<BR>
>DOS is 16 bits, and no matter how you cut it, Win95 is still just a GUI<BR>
shell on top of DOS no matter what Microsoft's marketting people try to<BR>
>tell you.  It'll work with 32 bitsokay, but yeah, you'll have problems with<BR>
16 bit programs that 'break the rules', i.e., aren't fully compatible with<BR>
>the published API.  And FWIW, Microsoft Windows wasn't compatible with the<BR>
API when it first came out.<BR>
><BR>
>They tell me that Win98 did away with the old 16 bit compatibility mode,<BR>
though I wouldn't know about it; I've never played with Win98, and >there<BR>
has been *no* Microsoft software on my machine in about a year now.  YMPWV.<BR>
><BR>
>Keven<BR>
<BR>
This is what I meant.  And as far as I know about Win98, it still uses a<BR>
16-bit gdi.exe and user.exe.  What these do is seriously limit what you can<BR>
run on your system.  If your gdi or user resources are low, but you have 128<BR>
megs free, you still can't scan that photo or burn that CD without problems.<BR>
You'll get messages like "Out of memory" and be wracking your brain trying<BR>
to figure out what the hell is up with that.  The only way to reclaim user<BR>
and gdi resources is to reboot the machine.  Memory defragmenters will not<BR>
help.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
___________________________________________________________<BR>
 J-Man<BR>
 ICQ# 2843475<BR>
 New Hampshire - U.S.A.<BR>
 Email : j-man@iname.com<BR>
 Home Page : http://www.geocities.com/~jman037/<BR>
___________________________________________________________<BR>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 99 14:28:55 +0000<BR>
From: igor@truserve.com<BR>
Subject: My website and a request<BR>
<BR>
Once again, I would like to thank everyone for their input and comments on my website. <BR>
I confess I was unaware as to the numbers of people that are not using the current <BR>
generation of browsers - but the emails I've gotten we're very informative.<BR>
<BR>
Feeling a bit out of my league, I spoke to a collegue (sp) of mine who is a <BR>
professional web designer, and he offered me some insights. So I would like to ask all <BR>
of you who have older browsers to try my site again ( <BR>
www.truserve.com/~igor/traveller ) and let me know if you are able to use it, etc...<BR>
<BR>
For the record, I _believe_ that all you need now to few the site is the ability to <BR>
view tables. I've attached alt tags to all images, so they should work fine (I believe).<BR>
<BR>
Let me know.<BR>
<BR>
Andy<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 99 14:35:00 +0000<BR>
From: igor@truserve.com<BR>
Subject: Another website request...<BR>
<BR>
Here's another one...<BR>
<BR>
If people could check out the Concourse section on my website ( <BR>
www.truserve.com/~igor/traveller/ ), I'm trying to build a list of every canon <BR>
Traveller alien race. If people could peruse this list, and submit to me omissions, I <BR>
would greatly appreciate it.<BR>
<BR>
Note: The only races I've been able to list are the ones from material I own...thus if <BR>
you submit another race, please include where it was described, and perhaps some <BR>
information about it (particularly it's homeworld). <BR>
<BR>
Also, I know that I am missing some races from SJGs Behind the Claw - I'm going to add <BR>
them tonight.<BR>
<BR>
Its my intent to provide a comprehensive listing of all races and references to them.<BR>
<BR>
Also, if you have a web-page devoted to any of these pages (or even a race of your own <BR>
design - like several of mine) please let me know, I'd love to link my page to it.<BR>
<BR>
Thanks!<BR>
<BR>
Andy<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:32:32 -0500<BR>
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Stupid questions <BR>
<BR>
> I've thought this whole House of Lords thing sounded like great fodder for<BR>
> a Regency-era campaign, where the nobility are losing many traditional perks<BR>
> and powers.  For instance, the whole bit where the peers were allowed to <BR>
> write a 75 word essay on why they should be allowed to continue serving!  <BR>
> <BR>
> It's an interesting story.  Not much air time in the States, though.<BR>
<BR>
It makes me wonder just how much the nobility resisted the Reforms.<BR>
<BR>
Keven<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
tc++ tm+ tn t4- to ru++ ge+ 3i c+ jt au st- ls pi+ ta+ he+ so- vi zh sy<BR>
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>
                                                     Science-Fiction Adventure<BR>
                                                     In Reavers' Deep<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:29:51 -0500<BR>
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Re Aslan <BR>
<BR>
> >Now then, there is the Treaty of Ftahir. Canon says (correctly) that it<BR>
> >would be very<BR>
> >dishonorable for the Aslan to break the treaty. Ok. When the Rebellion<BR>
> >occurs, it is now<BR>
> >honorable to break the treaty because of the death of ONE (quantity 1)<BR>
> >Aslan? What did<BR>
> >they do before the Rebellion, when I am very sure allot more Aslan died<BR>
> >from all manner<BR>
> >of bad events in the 3I?<BR>
> <BR>
> The aslan shot was a Clan Ambassadore, the (in the aslan view) literal<BR>
> Honor-Bearer for the whole of his clan. Killing him was, to the aslan mind,<BR>
> the same as attacking the whole clan, not just the Aslan. Additionally,<BR>
> said attack was without honor, and there also was no clear emperor to<BR>
> appeal to for redress.<BR>
> <BR>
> Aslan view lords AS the government to a certain extent, according to a<BR>
> variety of sources... hence, no Emperor, No Imperium. No Imperium, No<BR>
> Treaty of Ftahir.<BR>
> <BR>
> Thus, you have an entire clan's honor slighted, no means of redress without<BR>
> conflict, and a logical assumption that the "Lord" of the treaty has no<BR>
> heir, and thus the body he was lord of ceases to be a body...<BR>
> <BR>
> As for the others, they didn't carry the Title of Ambassador for a Clan,<BR>
> get mowed down without challenge, and then be quietly ignored (I've not<BR>
> seen any reference to Dulinor sending an apology to the Ambassador's Clan<BR>
> in the cannon); Until a Clear Emperor exists to mediate, Dulinor makes<BR>
> reparitions or dies, or someone else negotiates a new treaty, that entire<BR>
> clan has it in for Dulinor.<BR>
> <BR>
> Think (based upon the early Contact! article in JTAS) of Aslan Honor much<BR>
> like Feudal Japanese Honor, as portrayed in literature...<BR>
> 	Insult the man, he seeks revenge.<BR>
> 	Insult the family, The who Family seeks revenge<BR>
> 	Insult the Daimyo, and flee his wrath.<BR>
> 	Insult the Emperor, Prepare for war.<BR>
> 	Insult a man's representative, and you have insulted<BR>
> 		the man himself as well.<BR>
<BR>
Accurate to a point.  BUT...<BR>
<BR>
The Aslans didn't sign the Peace of Ftahalr until the Imperials started fighting 'honorably' in the Aslan's eyes.  The death of their Clan Abassador in the Emperor's Chambers the day the trigger was pulled affected *only* that clan.  And it could be argued (and *was* argued by Dulinor) that the assassination attempt against the Emperor was an attempt to succeed Strephon by the Right of Assassination.  In Aslan eyes, this could be seen as an 'honorable' thing for a *human* to do, and it was just bad luck their Ambassador was there during the attack.  Dulinor declared that such was his intention, to *replace* the Emperor.  The only 'sticking' point was that according to the Right of Assassination was there was no provisions for declaring him Emperor if there were any other claimnants for the Throne.<BR>
<BR>
Now, it's not known if Jaqueline had any other heirs when *she* was gunned down way back when, since her entire immediate family died with her.  But her assassin succeeded her.  Cleon the Mad didn't have any heirs when he got whacked.  There were *bound* to be spurious claims to the Throne that got set aside by the Moot.  Why didn't Dulinor stick around and let *them* decide?  Odds are, they would have found in his favour, since Varian and Lucan weren't in the direct line of succession, merely alternates who would have gotten further and further from the Throne as Strephon's kids produced more heirs.<BR>
<BR>
Finally, the very same Clan whose Ambassador died when the hammer fell ended up becoming *VERY* close to Craig of Daibei, which implies that Craig had Aslan help defending Daibei against the Solomani.  Interesting stuff, eh?<BR>
<BR>
Keven<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
tc++ tm+ tn t4- to ru++ ge+ 3i c+ jt au st- ls pi+ ta+ he+ so- vi zh sy<BR>
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>
                                                     Science-Fiction Adventure<BR>
                                                     In Reavers' Deep<BR>
<BR>
------------------------------<BR>
<BR>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:00:14 -0500<BR>
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up <BR>
<BR>
> David J. Golden wrote:<BR>
> > Rumor going around Microsoft may actually be considering porting<BR>
> > some Office apps to Linux ...<BR>
> ><BR>
> > (sources: 1, one of the O'Reilly "Perl" books flat-out states MS<BR>
> > is considering porting Visual Basic for Apps to Unix; 2, comments<BR>
> > from an unnamed source, corroborating 1--why port VB for APPS if<BR>
> > you're not porting those Apps?)<BR>
> <BR>
> Apparently (and I'm sure many  people  will  correct  me  if  I'm<BR>
> wrong) not all Unixes are created equal.  When looking round  the<BR>
> MS website about 6 months ago I found IE4 had been ported over to<BR>
> HP Unix and Sun Unix (IIRC) but the site stated  explicitly  that<BR>
> these 2 versions would *not* work with Linux.  From this I  would<BR>
> conclude that MS are interested in expanding  their  empire  into<BR>
> other *non-competing* OSs ... but to port to Linux would  be  bad<BR>
> for Windows (and thus unlikely).<BR>
<BR>
Linux is a free Unix workalike.  No way in *HELL* is M$ gonna port anything to it if they can help it.  If they could figure a way to do it, they'd probably *kill* Linux and save the world for untruth, injustice, and the corporado way of life.  <grin><BR>
<BR>
Keven<BR>
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                                                     Science-Fiction Adventure<BR>
                                                     In Reavers' Deep<BR>
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:37:05 -0500<BR>
From: "David J. Golden" <goldendj@pcisys.net><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] Cultural Differences...<BR>
<BR>
At 09:52 PM 11/2/99 EST, you wrote:<BR>
>the US. Muslims love it because they know there will be no pork<BR>
products in <BR>
>it, and many non Jews think it's cleaner and/or healthier for you. I<BR>
can't <BR>
<BR>
	Apparently, Muslims love it because "kosher" is supposed to be an<BR>
acceptable substitute for "halal"--the Islamic dietary law.<BR>
<BR>
- -- The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights,<BR>
   shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained<BR>
   by the people.<BR>
   -- Amendment IX, US Constitution<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:14:17 -0500<BR>
From: Ian Ferguson <ian@vax2.concordia.ca><BR>
Subject: [OT] RE: Lies; Damn Lies, and Statistics<BR>
<BR>
Graeme Batho writes:<BR>
<snipped><BR>
>These oddities just go to prove the old saying:<BR>
>There are Lies; Damn Lies, and Statistics.<BR>
<BR>
	Just remember that statistics doen't say things, people<BR>
	say things.  Just because somebody waves a statistic at<BR>
	you at the same time that they say something, doesn't mean<BR>
	that the statistic has proven or even supported the point.<BR>
<BR>
Peez<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:21:56 -0500<BR>
From: "Thom Harris" <thomharr@mediaone.net><BR>
Subject: Diplomacy - I don't have any....<BR>
<BR>
Okay Leonard, I forgot you were on here to correct everyone.  The old game<BR>
has been released into "Public Domain" and is available for *FREE* to those<BR>
who want it. Where I come from that's called *FREEWARE*.....  All *FREEWARE*<BR>
I've seen, the copyright holder retains possession and has just given<BR>
permission for people to use it.  Now, does that fit better in your<BR>
convoluted way of thinking?  No matter what you call it Leonard, it is still<BR>
available for *FREE*!!!!!!  Hey Leonard, I'll say it again, you can have it<BR>
for *FREE*.  Relax your rules Leonard and lighten up, this isn't rocket<BR>
science and a misnomer is just that, not someone trying to upset your<BR>
delicate sense of reality.<BR>
<BR>
Thom Harris<BR>
<BR>
In mail you write:<BR>
<BR>
> I don't have a port of "Diplomacy" but I did find the game for the PC<BR>
> <MS-DOS Based> that plays okay. Not very big and it's freeware. I can<BR>
attach<BR>
> it to an email if someone wants it.<BR>
<BR>
There was a PC version of Diplomacy released 10-15 years back. But it<BR>
wasn't freeware. And given that one of the big toy/game companies owns<BR>
the rights to Diplomacy, there *can't* be a "freeware" version. Any<BR>
version is either with the copyright/trademark holder's permission (and<BR>
*not* freeware!) or it'll be an illegal copy.<BR>
<BR>
Ask the folks who tried distributing "freeware" versions of Monopoly<BR>
back in the 80s.<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow)<BR>
 shadow@krypton.rain.com        <--preferred<BR>
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com     <--last resort<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:41:44 +0800<BR>
From: "Mick Bailey" <mickb@iinet.net.au><BR>
Subject: Emperors of the Rule of Man #8<BR>
<BR>
After a (cough) brief hiatus, we now return you to our irregularly broadcast<BR>
schedule...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
As usual, I make no claims as to the ability of this data to withstand the<BR>
attentions of the Canon Inquisition.  Your  mileage may vary...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
11 - Hideki (Admiral Hideki Morimotu)<BR>
- -2080 to -2018<BR>
reigned -2029 to -2018<BR>
<BR>
Having seized the centre of power and emasculated the Council of Noble<BR>
Officers, Hideki was forced to deal with the regional and provincial powers<BR>
in order to secure the throne. During his rule, the provincial Naval<BR>
commanders forced Hideki to reconstitute the Council of Noble Officers as a<BR>
body with somewhat more clout than he had envisaged.  furthermore, the<BR>
Council was now composed almost exclusively of provincial commanders and<BR>
governors, forever breaking the power of the General Staff at the highest<BR>
levels of Imperial politics.<BR>
<BR>
Hideki survived no less than nine recorded assasination attempts during his<BR>
rule before dying of heart failure in -2018.  After his death, the rumour<BR>
that his demise was the result of a tenth, successful attempt persisted.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
(Vidmar) (Vice-Admiral Vidmar Kulkinski)<BR>
- -2059 to -1973<BR>
anti-Emperor -2028 to -1973<BR>
<BR>
While Hideki's coup was successful in the fact that it ended with him on the<BR>
throne, he was unable to wholly eliminate opposition on Hub/Ershur.  A small<BR>
number of relatively junior General Staff oficers managed to flee, and were<BR>
joined by other discontents as they established a 'government-in-exile'<BR>
outside the Imperial borders in the Ley Sector.  The following year the<BR>
survivors formed their own Council of Noble of Officers and elected Vidmar<BR>
Kulkinski as 'true Emperor of the Rule of Man'.  This government-in-exile<BR>
was a fairly palrty thing, and lived under the constant threat of<BR>
elimination by Hideki.  It was saved only by Hideki's need to come to terms<BR>
with fractious provincial leaders, some of whom gave covert aid to the<BR>
'anti-Emperor'.  While scholars today discount the legitmacy of Vidmar's<BR>
claim, it is leant some legitimacy by the actions of subsequent Emperor's to<BR>
'reform' the anti-Emperors (also known as the not-Emperors, Little Emperors<BR>
and petty-Emperors).<BR>
<BR>
12 - Elize (Admiral Elize Papete)<BR>
- -2064 to -1997<BR>
reigned -2018 to -1997<BR>
<BR>
As Governor of Trans-Zarushagsar Province and Viceroy of the Verge Worlds,<BR>
Admiral Papete was one of the more powerful  leaders of the slowly<BR>
splintering Rule of Man.  During Hideki's rule, Elize largely governed<BR>
Trans-Zarushagaar as an independant state, paying little attention to the<BR>
central government on Hub/Ershur.<BR>
<BR>
Following Hideki's death, the Council chose Elize to succeed him, knowing<BR>
all too well that her rule would continue to encourage the centrigual<BR>
tendencies that had characterised the last half-century of hte Rule of Man.<BR>
Elize herself looked upon the Imperial throne as a largely ceremonial title,<BR>
and spent much of her time in her provincial capital (Elize retained the<BR>
Governorship of Trans-Zarushagaar when she ascended the throne).  Government<BR>
on Hub/Ershur was delegated to Admiral H'sui Shen Liang, the vice-Governor<BR>
of Hub/Ershur Province (as Empress, Elize was niminally governor of<BR>
Hub/Ershur as well as Trans-Zarushagaar).<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:59:46 -0700 (MST)<BR>
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU><BR>
Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Website revamped and Deckplans up<BR>
<BR>
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Trevor, Peter wrote:<BR>
 <BR>
> Apparently (and I'm sure many  people  will  correct  me  if  I'm<BR>
> wrong) not all Unixes are created equal.<BR>
<BR>
Heh!<BR>
<BR>
We used to have a sign up in our office:<BR>
<BR>
"You are in a twisty maze of Unix variants, all slightly different"<BR>
<BR>
:-)<BR>
<BR>
Even Linux is pretty well fragmented...you have RedHat, SUSE, Slackware,<BR>
then there's the issue of intel vs. alpha vs. PPC...<BR>
<BR>
mini-rant/<BR>
<BR>
For most of the cool applications stuff, unfortunately linux tends to mean<BR>
the Next Microsoft: RedHat Linux for x86...:-(<BR>
<BR>
None of the apps like Word Perfect, Star Office or the like run on Linux<BR>
for the PPC ofr example, even though _all_ it would require is simply<BR>
recompiling the damn things.<BR>
<BR>
/mini-rant<BR>
<BR>
(still longing for Mac OSX: best of _all_ worlds)<BR>
<BR>
Bruce Johnson<BR>
University of Arizona<BR>
College of Pharmacy<BR>
Information Technology Group<BR>
<BR>
Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 08:18:42 -0800<BR>
From: Evyn MacDude <wmacdude@worldnet.att.net><BR>
Subject: Re: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
<BR>
Sethkimmel@aol.com wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> Oh come Jesse; just bring cash and lose it; I mean spend it on the strip.<BR>
> This keeps my taxes down (no state or local income taxes - yeah!)<BR>
<BR>
 And the best politicians the casinos can buy...<BR>
<BR>
- --<BR>
Evyn...<BR>
<BR>
Get six jolly cowboys to carry my coffin<BR>
Get six pretty maidens to bear up my pall<BR>
Bunches of roses all over my coffin<BR>
Roses to deaden the clods as they fall<BR>
 Laredo<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:36:18 -0500 (EST)<BR>
From: Charles Collin <charles@hebb.psych.mcgill.ca><BR>
Subject: Of Coke and Correlations<BR>
<BR>
Not sure why I'm combining these two other than alliteration, but...<BR>
<BR>
Kiri, you might try buying some Coke from Canada.  We use plain old<BR>
glucose (of cane extract presumably) to sweeten it here.  I remember<BR>
noticing that Coke in the southern US was sweetened with various "corn<BR>
derivitives" and wondering if they always use locally available sweeteners<BR>
in different parts of the world (sugar beets?  ewwwww...). <BR>
<BR>
As for correlational stats, one thing I'll always remember is the<BR>
assertion by my most recent stats teacher that "A .2 or .3 correlation<BR>
means nothing, that's just the background correlation of the universe". <BR>
So Douglas Adams was right, there _is_ a fundamental interconnectedness of<BR>
all things!  Just to give another example of this sort of folly, there<BR>
is a significant positive correlation between violent crime and ice cream<BR>
sales.  There is a good reason for this if you think about it, but I'll<BR>
leave that as an excercise for the reader... :-)<BR>
<BR>
Charles C.<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:46:56 -0600 <BR>
From: "Moody, Danny M." <DMoody@bridge.com><BR>
Subject: RE: [OT] One Day In Peace<BR>
<BR>
> -----Original Message-----<BR>
> From: cos 90 [mailto:cos90@powersurfr.com]<BR>
> <BR>
> Wow, you *really* missed my point... we aren't talking laws <BR>
> here, <BR>
<BR>
Not at all.  Having made the trip from AK to the lower 48 through Canada<BR>
many times, getting stuff through that border is child's play.  Inspection?<BR>
Hah!  the border guard asked me if I had any firearms, I said no, and they<BR>
waved me through.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> >Remember Prohibition?<BR>
> <BR>
> Not personally. But alcohol is easy to make -- I've done it myself (my<BR>
> dad and I used to make our own beer). I know of very few <BR>
> people who are<BR>
> able to manufacture automatic and semi-automatic weapons in their own<BR>
> homes...<BR>
<BR>
A trip to Home Despot and a few hand tools are all it takes to make fully<BR>
automatic subguns.  Look up the Sten gun.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
vargr1                                                   UPP-8D9B85<BR>
- ---------------------------- Omnia dicta fortiora, si dicta latina.<BR>
Meyers-Briggs personality type: ENTJ                vargr1@jcn1*com<BR>
"...the ENTJ is not one to be trifled with."      dmoody@bridge*com<BR>
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